Tundra Vision: Nelson’s Loss Hurts

Tell you what, gang.

This hurts. I mean, it really hurts. It hurts because I just spent most of my weekend taunting my Viking fan cousin. And it’s going to come back to bite me.

Him: You know, with all the talent the Packers have, I think anything less than an undefeated season is a disappointment, don’t you?

Me: You know, with the lack of talent that the Vikings have, I think anything less than a wild card would be a…well, wait…that still wouldn’t be a disappointment, would it?

Jordy Nelson’s probable ACL tear in a meaningless game and probable nonexistence in what I’ve called the Packers’ best chance to add to the Super Bowl trophy case hurts. But not just in the “next man up” sense, just using your Madden ’04 Spidey-Senses to figure out how much a drop-off you have in raw ability statistics.

This hurts in the role that Nelson plays, and it is an important one.

Him: You know, I know you Packer fans think because you own imaginary stock, you think you’re the best fans in the world. But Vikings fans are pretty darn loyal.

Me: Actually, I would call all Vikings fans “die-hard fans”.  Mainly because those are the only kind they have left.



Before I get into discussing the Packers most important free agent, Randall Cobb, I first want to re-establish what NFL money is.  In order to understand the negotiation between Randall Cobb and the Packers, you have to understand what the stakes are.  If the Packers and Cobb are able to get a deal done at around $9 million a year, what does that really mean?

The first thing to understand is that from the owners’ perspective (in this case the Green Bay Packers Inc.) the money isn’t real.  There is a salary cap and a salary floor.  The amount of money that is spent on players each year is basically predetermined.  Not only that, but regardless of what a franchise spends on its players it’s going to make money.  Every single NFL team turns a profit.

The salary cap and floor are one of the many reasons that the NFL reigns supreme in America.  Every fan base has a reason to be excited every year.  The Seattle Seahawks, who just made their second consecutive Super Bowl appearance, had a meager record of 34-46 in the 5 seasons that preceded that run.  Your team’s fortunes can turn on a dime.

Football owners, unlike baseball owners deserve no credit (or blame) for spending to make the team competitive.  They all spend or don’t spend in accordance to the cap.  If they don’t utilize all of their cap room in a season that money gets rolled over into the next cap and they use it that season.  To the owners, player salaries are just a controlled cost of doing business and business is good.


Depleted Receiving Corps Greatly Affecting the Packers Offense

It was not that long ago that the Green Bay Packers offense was unstoppable.

During the 2011 season, the Packers put up yards (6,482) and points (560) at an unprecedented rate. A ridiculous rate. A rate which resulted in an MVP season for Aaron Rodgers, a 15-1 regular season record, and homefield advantage throughout the playoffs.

When the Packers offense took the field that season, it was almost a given that they were going to score.

A big reason for their success that season was the quality of depth at the wide receiver position they were able to trot out week after week after week.

Greg Jennings and Jordy Nelson were the “starters”, a term that is loosely used in the Mike McCarthy offense. While they combined for 2,300 yards and 24 touchdowns, the rest of the receiving corp was not too shabby either.

You know things are good when Donald Driver, the Packers all time leading receiver is the team’s number four receiver. You also know things are good when Randall Cobb, a rookie at the time, was the team’s number five receiver.

Things were so good, this receiving group, completed with James Jones and Jermichael Finley, was featured on the cover of Sports Illustrated during the Packers’ quest for an undefeated season:


perfect pack


To say things have changed in Green Bay since that memorable 2011 season is an understatement.


The Yearly Revisiting of the NFL Network’s Top 10 Green Bay Packers

In what has become an annual tradition, it is time to revisit the NFL Network’s list of the Top 10 Green Bay Packers of all time.

This year, this program is being featured during “Dynasty Week” which has an entire week of Packers programming scheduled to satisfy the need for football in the off season. With this in mind, now seems to be the perfect time to see if the list is accurate, or needs some revisions.

To refresh everyone’s memory, here is the list as they originally came up with:

10: Jim Taylor

9: Jerry Kramer

8: James Lofton

7: Herb Adderley

6: Paul Hornung

5: Ray Nitschke

4: Reggie White

3: Bart Starr

2: Brett Favre

1: Don Hutson

During last year’s revisit of the list, there were a few players who were worth discussing their inclusion on this list, and should be discussed again.

Although he was injured for half of the 2014 season, Aaron Rodgers’ career stats speak for themselves. Has he warranted a spot in this exclusive list yet?

What about Donald Driver, who retired as the team’s all time leader in receptions and receiving yards?

Dave Robinson entered the Pro Football Hall of Fame this past year. Does this equal a Top 10 all time ranking for the Packers?

After careful consideration, my revisited list last year featured the removal of James Lofton, and the inclusion of Aaron Rodgers:



Ol’ Bag of Donuts: Is Donald Dazed and Confused?

Adam and Chris make it two weeks in a row (quite the streak for them) with a new episode. This week, they scan the Packers universe to hit on topics such as John Kuhn’s job security, the outlook for the secondary and Mike Neal’s OLB prospects. They also recap the loss to the Cardinals and look ahead to Saturday night’s game against the Rams. And did you ever think there would be a link between Donald Driver and a character from Dazed and Confused? Well guess what – there is!

Listen using the player below or download the podcast from the Packers Talk Radio Network on Itunes.


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It’s Still OK to Trust Ted Thompson

The first quarter of 2013 has been a rough three months for Packers fans.

It started out well enough, with a solid playoff win against the Vikings at Lambeau Field.

Unfortunately, things have gone south after that.

First, there was the embarrassing loss to the 49ers in the Divisional Round of the playoffs.

Donald Driver, the team’s all time leading receiving leader, retired after 14 seasons, including a final season which saw him barely on the field.

Just over a week after Driver’s retirement, they released Charles Woodson after seven seasons.

They tried to, and failed, to sign free agent defensive lineman Chris Canty, after medical concerns.

They lost out on the Steven Jackson sweepstakes.

Greg Jennings took the (less) money and ran to Minnesota to join the hated Vikings.

And on the same day that Jennings bolted, word came out that fan favorite Tom Crabtree signed with the Buccaneers, after an apparent lack of interest in the Packers resigning him.

That is a lot of ache for fans to process in such a short period of time.

More than a handful have aimed their frustration and anger at General Manager Ted Thompson for his inactivity thus far, his only actions being a restructuring of a bloated AJ Hawk contract and resigning backup linebacker Robert Francois.

Thompson decided to address this on Sunday, the day before the NFL Owners Meetings begin.


Revisiting the NFL Network’s Top 10 Green Bay Packers

It is difficult to try and select the top 10 players in the history of the Packers.

A team which has been in existence for nearly 100 years, rich in tradition and history, has certainly had more than its share of top tier players.

Last year, the NFL Network explored this very topic, coming out with their list of the top 10 players in Packers history. The list, which caused much debate, went as follows:

10: Jim Taylor

9: Jerry Kramer

8: James Lofton

7: Herb Adderley

6: Paul Hornung

5: Ray Nitschke

4: Reggie White

3: Bart Starr

2: Brett Favre

1: Don Hutson

That is a very impressive list of players, all of whom have made a significant impact on the history of the Packers.

One year after this list first came out, it is time to re-examine the list to see if the right players are on the list, and in the correct order.

The first thing that needs to be done is review some of the newsworthy items that have taken place over the past few months, as they might have an impact on the players and the order.

The omission of Aaron Rodgers was seen  by some as a glaring oversight by some last year.  After another season of statistical excellence, should Rodgers be added to the list of Top 10 Packers?

How about Donald Driver, who retired after a 14 year career as the Packers all time leader in receptions and receiving yards? Does Quickie deserve a place on the list?