Chris and Dave do a quick check-in after a 20-17 last-second loss in Detroit that drops the Packers to 4-3. The inbox is full and nobody is writing about the running game. Listeners all showed up with the same complaint, and rants are apparently not safe for the family. But the guys only spend a few minutes on the flags themselves before turning to a harder question: given that this is the product now, what is a fan actually supposed to do with it?
That question splits them in a way that’s more honest than the usual back and forth. One of them watches every week knowing better, gets sucked in by the third quarter anyway, and wonders if the anger is just proof he’s still alive. The other has already watched the NBA lose him entirely in five years and is seriously considering recording games and only watching the wins. There’s a comparison to the AI bubble, a theory about what flopping quarterbacks have done to the sport, and genuine admiration for how baseball fixed itself while football went the other direction. They agree on what the Packers should do about it, which involves Matt LaFleur, midfield, and a headset getting stomped into the turf.
The actual football is bleak. A kicker who disappears inside a dome from 26 yards. An offensive line that’s an original sin. A third-string center named John Williams who came in and played great, which raises the obvious question of where he’s been. And a receiving corps leading the league in drops, with Josh Jacobs announcing his return by dropping a touchdown.
No betting lines this week, by mutual agreement that everyone could use the break, though this week’s winner scored a perfect ten for ten and gets a plaque taped to the wall of the hotel and casino.
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