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Chris and Dave open with apologies, because two guys who spent five weeks declaring this team dead in the water just watched it hang 31 points on the Chicago Bears. Jordan Love posted a 137.5 passer rating and 367 yards, Christian Watson and Matthew Golden looked like a top-five tandem, Tucker Kraft finally looked like…


Chris and Dave are back in their usual spots, one in the heart of Wisconsin and one under the Arch, to sort through a win that was equal parts relief and horror movie. The Packers slogged past the Jets in overtime in the rain, lost key players before the first drive was over, drew flags…


Packers Therapy season 22 begins, and Chris and Dave are not in the same place about this Packers team. Dave says last year still hangs over him, but something about this quiet offseason feels like the kind of year the Packers sneak up on people. Chris wanted leadership changes that never came, and until he…